Sunday, March 04, 2007

News Report From Bob Schulz

Finally: Judiciary vs. Judiciary

If all attorneys are officers of the courts that make up the judicial branch of the government, then the government now has one of its best and brightest members challenging the legality of the operation and enforcement of the federal income tax system on constitutional and statutory grounds.

Meet Thomas K. Cryer, Attorney at Law.

On February 20, 2007, the news about Thomas K. Cryer broke on the Internet with the publication of an article titled, “Attorney Challenges Income Tax Law, Constitutional History in the Making.”

Read more here.


Blogger FredMarshall1937 said...

Hey, everybody, don't forget to pay "your" income taxes early. 30 million-plus criminal immigrants(that's what "illegal aliens" means) rely upon your generosity and ignorance. Oh, and upon your MONEY. The courts won't prosecute THEM, but they'll castrate and slice-n'-dice YOU.

12:49 AM  
Blogger TruePatriot said...

The bastard border crossing agent @ the border crossing from Vancouver, B.C. to Blaine, WA treated me like I was a crimminal!

They wanted to know where I work, how long I was out of the country, what I bought, where I lived & from who I purchase my car! Then then searched my trunk & finally told me I could leave... oh yeah, & I forgot to mention she behaved like one of Hitler's henchman!

The sickening thing is that I am a US citizen & yet they let ILlegal immingrants just walk across the border from Mexico into the USA!

1:37 AM  
Blogger AFTF said...

I also live in Louisiana.

2:18 AM  
Blogger FredMarshall1937 said...


Feel as though you're being helplessly engulfed in a raging current that is sweeping you downstream at breakneck speed? Feel like an impotent victim of illegal immigration, illegal income taxation, overzealous law enforcement agencies which far exceed their constitutional limits and jurisdictional authorities, corrupt politicians and legislatures unconcerned with the welfare of the people they supposedly represent, corrupt federal courts dedicated to expanding unconstitutional federal POWERS (with no respect for truth and justice)?

Fed up with runaway health care costs, ridiculously-high gasoline prices, rampant government abuse of private property rights and misuse of eminent domain, mental bombardment by pharmaceutical companies encouraging hypochondria, growing public acceptance of deviancy, Hollywood and television programming committed to brainwashing the masses?

The list of government abuses of the people is long, overwhelming, and nearing the saturation point. Having intentionally morphed into a parasite upon the people by stealth, governments at all levels have simply gotten out of hand.

It's not only way past time to put a stop to government abuses, anything remotely resembling freedom is rapidly approaching extinction unless the people strengthen their defenses and harmonize strategic offensive forces to beat government back into the constitutional cage in which it rightfully belongs.

Finally one brave lawyer has broken his oath of secrecy and has taken a stand for all of us.

We The People Foundation

Finally, one brave New Hampshire man and wife have declared "enough is enough" and are refusing to budge till they are accorded their constitutional rights to due process of law and a fair trial.

Quest for Fair Trial in Concord, NH

We must support these brave pioneers and join their efforts if this nation is to survive and avoid total slavery of the masses. The "we" is all of us, and the time is NOW.

2:41 AM  

Fred Marshall,

I'd like to get you on for an audioblog....send me an email and let me know.......

3:27 AM  
Blogger KOSMIC said...

16th amendment advocates, READ UP.

There has been some confusion regarding the actual import of the Brushaber
ruling, one court actually holding that the effect of Brushaber was to uphold the
constitutionality of the Sixteenth Amendment 7 (?), and another has held that Congress was
given the power to tax incomes by the Sixteenth Amendment 8 . One court, incredibly, cited
Brushaber as holding that the Sixteenth Amendment "provided the needed constitutional
basis for the imposition of a direct non-apportioned income tax,"9 a proposition that the
Supreme Court in Brushaber categorically rejected! The clear and unequivocal ruling of
the Court in Brushaber is that the Sixteenth Amendment granted no new powers to
"It is clear on the face of this text that it does not purport to confer
power to levy income taxes in a generic sense — an authority already
possessed and never questioned — or to limit and distinguish between one
kind of income taxes and another, but that the whole purpose of the
Amendment was to relieve all income taxes when imposed from
apportionment from a consideration of the source whence the income
was derived." Brushaber, supra, at 17-8

8:37 AM  
Blogger KOSMIC said...


There can be no doubt, the income tax is an indirect tax, not a property tax that is
immune from direct tax apportionment, and there can be no doubt that the Sixteenth
Amendment did not in any way, shape or form enlarge or enhance the taxation power of
Congress. Brushaber, Stanton, Peck and Eisner, supra. It is, therefore, subject to the same
limitations on taxing authority that are established hereinabove, and that is that it cannot
tax person or property without apportionment (Article I, § 9, cl. 4), nor any activity that is
without either the scope of federal legislative authority (McCulloch and Farrington,
supra), outside the scope of excise (Flint, supra) or monies owed to nonresident aliens and
foreign corporations (Railroad Co. and Erie R.R., supra). Nor does the power to tax by
excise permit the federal government to tax activities that are solely within the realm of the
State jurisdiction (Bailey and Hill, supra).

8:41 AM  
Blogger whynot said...

...all well and good, but 1. The Judge in NH won't [or is unable to]understand. 2. That is why the 4852 is necessary WHEN FILING. When erroneous W2'S and 1099 are issued an individual must submitt/declare the error. All the IRS understands is paperwork. It's the hidden truth in their maddnes. Ctc makes sense.

9:14 AM  
Blogger KOSMIC said...

regarding CTC
I have seen this and tryed it. I agree its better to be honest open and correcting w2 that are wrong, but CTC also tells you to file as Nonres alien. That is wrong. Do not file any return just the 4852 and leave it at that. You only need to disclose your earnings, that they are not taxable. But it is wrong to file any forms. W4, 1040 or 1040NR. Read the class action law suit in light of Cryers motion to dismiss.

9:46 AM  
Blogger Anthony said...

Ed Brown is "The Boston Tea Party" of the 21st century
"We The People" need to support him in any and every way possible
Every sovereign of every state in The Union needs to blog, email, write letters, post signs, make calls, buy signage, send food, give money, bear arms, resist tyrrany, fight the nwo, uphold The Consitution, Defend The Bill of Rights, stand up for The Real America and her honor which is: "One Nation Under God" SOVEREIGN INHABITANTS OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

12:28 PM  
Blogger TruePatriot said...

How can I send $$$ to that lawyer, who is fighting the IRS??? Isn't his name Cryer(sp?)? I was reading that he needs $$$ to fight those malfeasant bastards & it'd be very foolish not to help him any manner possible, for the simple fact that his fight IS our fight!!!

12:32 PM  
Blogger TruePatriot said...

Can you imagine if just 20 people from every state amassed in NH, for the Browns' plight OR wherever that lawyer (Cryer?) is battling? That would be 1,000 people UNITED & then the bloody complicit mainstream media would have no choice but to cover the story!!!

It's tragic that the vast American populous is too lazy, scared or unmotivated to support these TRUE PATRIOTS en masse, for their gain IS our gain & conversely their loss IS our loss!!!

Something needs to get organized quick. How about we start with a site or even express the idea to Bob Shultz. For example:

12:38 PM  
Blogger KOSMIC said...

support We The People at

12:42 PM  
Blogger Nameless said...

Someone should tell Schulz that the lawyer's actual legal name is Tommy, not Thomas.

12:54 PM  
Blogger lifetimenonfiler said...

Regarding the 16th amendment.
(I think I'm an advocate)
Soak the rich?...(absolutely!)People who profit or gain while conducting business as a corporation (or through) from stocks, bonds, ect... under the privelege and protections of U.S. law...should probably continue be taxed!

I think my boss(a small bidness owner) should be able to pay himself a reasonable salary or wages (not taxable)...and then pay his Income tax on the rest of the business.

Yup, unless that money just "comes in" it aint "income"

I know that I dont have "Income" because "I gotta go out every day for 8 hours,to get mine"

1:30 PM  
Blogger AFTF said...

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8:48 PM  
Blogger AFTF said...

I have used the ctc method and have received three years worth of COMPLETE return of my property from the state. Nothing from the feds as of yet.

9:33 PM  
Blogger KOSMIC said...

The state is were you win or lose. Depending on how the law is written and enforced. I live in MN and the dept of revenue is ruthless. Their god, like the rest of mn is the world of shrinks and fabrication of thoughts so liberal that Al Gore would be amazed.

9:54 PM  
Blogger FredMarshall1937 said...

KOSMIC said...
"regarding CTC

"I have seen this and tryed it. I agree its better to be honest open and correcting w2 that are wrong, but CTC also tells you to file as Nonres alien. That is wrong. Do not file any return just the 4852 and leave it at that. You only need to disclose your earnings, that they are not taxable. But it is wrong to file any forms. W4, 1040 or 1040NR. Read the class action law suit in light of Cryers motion to dismiss."

1. What does "CTC" mean? Where can "the class action law suit" be found, and what is its subject matter?

2. Some of your posts on this thread are verbatim extracts from Tommy Cryer's Memorandum in Support of 4th Motion to Dismiss. It would be more honest (and not plagiarism) to provide accreditation when posting things which aren't your own original words. It's misleading to post the work of others so that it appears as your own. Cryer has done a magnificient job. Give him credit.

11:53 PM  
Blogger KOSMIC said...

Nice of you to recognize the source of my post. I didn't mean to leave out were it came from. My intent is always to direct others to it so they can read it them selves. CRYER

When I post I make it clear where the material comes from. I do not suggest these ideas are mine alone. My feeling is that I want to be honest with the government and I am doing my part. But to play games, file paper without proven method and using what some communist call tax shelters or protester arguments, is just asking for trouble. At first I though joining We The People class action at and telling the IRS I would not pay along with a zero return was good enough. It is NOT. My goal is to stay away from the statutes that have Prison time attached, as long as I can and still make my beliefs known to the IRS and not be paying what I do not owe. Also, any time you file paper with the government you should know you are expected to be fully aware of all details in regards to it. Something fery few of us can. Again, I will try harder to put the source of any cut and paste, but then there is very little in this world that is truly original. What's old is new, What's new is old. Around and around we go.

12:36 AM  
Blogger KOSMIC said...

In a way this blog is starting to sound like the yahoo groups that argu over different methods of getting away with not withholding and paying income tax an labor. I too have, yet really this blog is more about Ed and the fact there is no chance of getting a fair trial, that we all need to support him and come together and try to force the issue in the media until they listen and get it right. So while some of the quotes and theory is needed it is not the single purpose nor will it produce any positive results unless the people rise up and take back control of the government and stop the lies and corruption. I never thought of myself as a conspiracy nut, but if that is what I am called then OK. But in the end I support Ed and Elaine to the end.

12:43 AM  
Blogger KOSMIC said...

"News Report From Bob Schulz"

Again, As you can see from the heading this is the door I came through and the reason for the posts. If you follow through and read Cryer's motion to dismiss you will know were I got the post I left. Maybe Fred is one of those who thinks everyone should add ALL RIGHTS RESERVED at the end of everything. But since I use a made up name as most others do who the hell cares anyways. I post what I want and where. You don't like it then maybe it is a reflection of yourself more than an opinion of me. I gave no indication that I wrote it, I just forgot to add the link to Schulz's and MINE web site.

1:40 AM  

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