Thursday, June 07, 2007

We The People Must Circle Our Protective Wagons Around Ed and Elaine


Envision a wagon journey heading through the wilderness to the promised land where freedom and liberty reign. One of the wagons - corresponding to the Brown family - was ambushed. What do we do? The answer is obvious to anyone with a heart and soul.

44 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody who thinks the baffoons and murderers in power (as well as the sheeple in this country)are going to be moved by anything other than violent protest are delusional. It is past time for the true freedom loving people in this country including all the IRS protesters and 9/11 Truthers to unite and prepare for violent action. First against property and assets. Hopefully that will be as far as it has to go. If that is not enough than key figures have to be dealt with.

4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ghandi, Martin Luther King ..et all.. did not succeed completely.
What they accomplished was destined to be temporary at best.
Like Jesus who preceeded them we see the true cost and limited returns of non-violence. There is some return on non-violence alone but not a large enough endowement. The enemies and greedies and power hungry scumbags killed Jesus. They have had centuries to learn how to marginalize the non-violent and "all mouth" protest. That means is simply not strong enough.
It is time to unite.

4:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tax evaders made out as heroes

4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

from san jose i am with you

4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

san jose again, I am with you ED

as for evaders to heroes, not correct,

Americans to patriots!!!!!!

4:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ed brown is a criminal. Anyone with half an ounce of intelligence can find the laws allowing the federal government to levy and enforce a federal income tax. I don't believe for one moment that neither of them have ever seen or read the laws. I found them in less than 15 seconds.

Elaine not only refused to pay her own taxes, she refused to withhold her employees taxes. Consider the position she put THEM in. How selfish is that? And where did THAT money go?

You mean to tell me that neither of them were able to find ANY information on the federal tax code in TEN YEARS???!!! BULL!

They are criminals, and they knew what they were doing.

There are plenty of LEGAL ways to avoid paying taxes. They consciously CHOSE to do it illegally.

It was their choice. They can pay the consequences for that choice.

No sympathy here. And no apologies either.

4:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the nut who posted @ 4:36pm.

How long have you had the delusion that you are human?

Show me the law. Where is the law?

4:40 PM  
Blogger vman45 said...

Taxation is legal, if direct and apportioned. The Federal Mafia has no jurisdiction over your wages and property, but they have an army to enforce their illegal tactics. You and I have only our fear and ignorance. The question is what is income? The confusing path to the answer is where we've been hoodwinked. Read the facts!

4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anyone with half an ounce of intelligence can find the laws allowing the federal government to levy and enforce a federal income tax"

Then post the law. The IRS after repeated attempts and even law suits have refused to show the law that requires citizens to pay a federal income tax.

Do what no one us has been able to do and show us the law.

4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What: Demo opposing Federal force against Ed Brown
When: 2:30p - 3:30p... Friday, 6/8/07
Where: Outside IRS office, 1000 Elm Street, Manchester NH

This is tentative and I may change or cancel it. unfolding details are at

http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=9118.msg158734#msg158734

check back on that thread for the latest on the status of this demo call me at 721 1490 for the latest.

if someone from this blog could make this event a little more prominent that would be appreciated.

I'll likely have two signs , three flags

5:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bless the Browns,
the fact is someone needed to stand up against everything that is wrong with this great nation of ours, the idjit posting at 4:36, if it was that easy for you to find, please show it to Ed and Elaine.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR SOMEONE TO DO !!!!
Meanwhile Elaine's employees more than likely enjoyed having their tax money in their pockets as opposed to watching shrub fight an illegal war which is costing our children's lives and the rest of us TAXES that there IS NO LAW which says we have to pay.

Peace,

5:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am the "nut" who posted at 4:36. I am just as human as you are. It never ceases to amaze me how those who question my humanity feel the need to resort to insults to make their points.

The laws exist. Period. It is not my fault you can't be bothered to look for them. They are all over the internet. Google them!

And don't even go down that road of "do you believe everything you read on the Internet?". The Internet is exactly where you are getting your ideas. No, I don't believe everything I read anywhere. But I do use common sense.

Use yours, and do a search. The laws DO exist.

Ed and Elaine could have made plenty of other legal choices, and paid far less in taxes than they have in the past.

They wanted a fight. They got one. They lost. Now they want more fight. They are still making stupid choices. I have no pity or empathy for them.

The worst part is, they are pulling this crap RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM MY CHILDREN! And THAT pisses me off!

You people talk about the government trying to instill fear in the rest of us?!!

THEY are not trying to instill fear in anyone!! YOU are!

And no, I WILL NOT post the links. I refuse to expend effort on behalf of you who are TOO DAMNED LAZY to do it yourselves!

That's the whole problem with all of you. You only want something for nothing. You want to prove you aren't like that? Stop paying your taxes. THEN STOP USING ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THEY PAY FOR! And good luck at that.

That's all I have to say, and I'm through with this stupidity. I will not be back.

5:10 PM  
Anonymous livefreeordie said...

To the apathetic arrogant thing (it can not be human with a heart) Pretty please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show me the law. If it only took you 15 seconds, what the hell put all of us out of our misery you offensive government agent.

5:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr 5:10. You google and find it that easy, please post a link you took all this time to type all that, please post the links. I can't seem to find what you are looking at.

5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no law that says the Feds can take your money away from you without your consent.

5:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know - you read over and over from so called thousands of people all around the world claiming they support Ed and Elaine Brown yet where are all these people?

That's right - they are sitting safe and sound behind their little computers posting away on the Internet. That's all they'll EVER do.

How many people are at Ed and Elaine Browns home right now? A handful if that. Even after thousands of supporters have been "rallying" the troops for months.

Face it... The republic is dead, has been dead and will remain dead because the people just don't care about it anymore.

In a matter of days by the looks of it you are going to either see Ed and Elaine dragged out cuffed or carried out dead. Ed will probably be carried out dead and Elaine will spend the rest of her life in jail.

I'm simply being realistic.

5:32 PM  
Blogger Mark Jones said...

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5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

for the person who says they found it in 15 seconds,


WHERE IS THE LINK!!!!!

take 15 more and post a link


take yourself else where with your lies!

5:33 PM  
Blogger Ryan Mann said...

Anonymous said:
I have no pity or empathy for them.
The worst part is, they are pulling this crap RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM MY CHILDREN! And THAT pisses me off!
You people talk about the government trying to instill fear in the rest of us?!! Yes, that is exactly what the government does, especially the IRS (government supported mofia) I have no sympathy for IRS employees. They ripped off my family and got away with it because they couldn't afford lawyers to fight back against the government. If my parents just decided not to pay the money that the IRS said that they owed, they would have probably been arrested. Then they wouldn't have been able to take care of my uncle who has a head injury. People like you pis me off because you reffuse to question the status quo. Oh, I get it. The government knows best for us American peasants. The IRS needs to be shut down as soon as possible! That's one reason I'm planning to vote for Ron Paul for president in 2008.

5:36 PM  
Blogger Mark Jones said...

There is no law. The UK knows there is no law and we've never understood why Americans pay it?

The American public should be marching on Congress over this, it's not in the Constitution.

Fully fledged fascism in America.

My thoughts are with you from the UK.

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if there was a law the non-human, non-american would have posted it, oh we are to lazy to look, hahahaha

he has not left, we all know that, so read this, you are a coward! for not fighting for your own freedom the truth is, personal income can not be taxed,

SHOW US THE LAW!!!!!


I may not be able to fight side by side with you ED, but we will carry the fight from the west coast,

you will see more patriots fighting back if they take ED,

they will be shown no mercy

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

for the IRS loving non-patriot,


I FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR CHILDREN, you will not even stand up for them and their future,!!!!!!


sympathy for yours

5:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." ~Mark Twain~

6:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to sound foolish....but....

Is there any way I can get a refund for the taxes I've paid in years past. I did not realize I did not have to pay and would like my money back. Anyone know where I can get my refund? Any suggestions.

6:30 PM  
Blogger USAFVET said...

I always enjoy reading those posts from people who think people like me are clueless and know nothing of the law as it is written. They are always quick to scrutinize, call us names, and accuse us of being the problem. I served this country for over 10 years...and truly believed I had freedom. Ever since leaving the military...the freedoms I thought I had are realistically a delusion. Why would ANYONE pay this machine any longer when freedoms are being whisked away at an alarming rate?

6:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with USAFVET. But anyway, how does a guy get his money back. I want my refund. I've paid in for 35 years, now I want my money back. Please help me, I am clueless and have been paying my taxes.

6:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ed Brown will die as he is today. A loser.

6:51 PM  
Blogger livefreeordie said...

"Anonymous said...
Ed Brown will die as he is today. A loser."

Don't you fear God? Even if you do not agree with the stand they have taken,you should not wish their demise. I am not born in America but i know that no law can ever be in place no matter which country you live in, that robs it's people from their labor. Shame to all of you Americans for not standing up against the wrongs. The founders of this once great nation must be turning in their graves.

7:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this was a test, all you "patriots" proved was you will sit by your keyboards and type. You won't actually do anything or go "circle your wagons" or whatnot.

7:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ed Brown did not pay for torture.

8:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for allowing anonymous postings back; it will help keep the site exciting! already seems to be working LOL

The presence of angry trolls is always an indicator of success and I'm glad to see more activity returning to this blog.

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, even more interesting that you don't see they are deleting posts they don't want you to see

8:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they are deleting entries and controlling what you read

8:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the people running this site, they are controlling you. much like you think the "government" is 'trying' to do

8:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ed should not talk to the press because he comes off as a lunatic. Step outside for a bit and watch the videos without any bias and you'll see what I mean.

Saying his name is not Ed and talking about fiction just makes people think he is "another" nutcase.

I'm serious.

Regardless of whether he is right or wrong and whether he is a patriot or not... he comes off as a wacko to "most" people who see him for the first time in these video and audio interviews.

In reality - Ed is his own worst enemy and he will alienate a hell of a lot more people then he'll bring together.

How many people/supporters are even at his house - does anyone have a rough estimate? I doubt more than a handful and that just proves my point.

2:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh, that's because he is a whacko. Along with the petty few who support him.

Read your history boys and girls. This is the same type of rhetoric B.S. the Nazis spewed. The truly scary part is that there are just enough of them who won't take what I just said to be an insult to make them dangerous.

They threaten not to be taken alive, then say "oo! oo! look! the government is showing force to intimidate everyone!" No. they are not showing force to intimidate everyone. They are showing force to YOU to let YOU know that they DO take your threats seriously, and they ARE NOT GOING TO F--- around if and when YOU decide to get violent.

WE (meaning the vast majority of your neighbors) are glad they are there to protect the rest of us from you.

8:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's something Elaine Brown would probably rather was not reported publicly:

How many people know that she not only refused to pay her taxes for ten years, and did not pay the taxes due from her employees incomes, but while doing this, she and Ed claimed they took nothing and were self sufficient? Bullshit!

During this same period, she accepted Medicaid patients, and took payments for these patients from the government. Part of her income was coming from taxes paid by the rest of us!!!!

They are quite simply, HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!

9:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When will the police stop waisting time and kill these people?

10:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"That's one reason I'm planning to vote for Ron Paul for president in 2008."

I can't find Ron Paul's stance on eliminating the IRS. Can someone please post a link?

I'd like to vote for him as I have voted for Ralph Nader and Ross Perot in the past but they did not have the support of such powerful people as Ed and Elaine.

11:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Sean Paul for President. He is a good singer.

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about RuPaul? He/She would be a more suitable candidate for this movement.

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I agree with USAFVET. But anyway, how does a guy get his money back. I want my refund. I've paid in for 35 years, now I want my money back."

I think USAFVET has your money. Your taxes paid for his salary and benefits for 10 years. Maybe he will give it back because they were collected illegally?

12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FREE TIBET-FREE TIBET-FREE TIBET

1:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was not a test at all it was a raid. The only reason it stopped was because of Mr. Dog Walker.

Where's all the supporters that are supposed to be surrounding Ed's house to protect them?

I'll tell you where they are - they are standing as far away as possible because of Ed's big mouth and all his ramblings about being a fiction, 9/11, Illuminati etc. etc.

Like I said before - Ed is his own worst enemy. When this started it was promising and on the right track. A movement was growing and people were being energized. However, Ed ruined all that.

Ed - I hope you are reading this. You sir are a moron and soon you are going to be a dead moron and your cause will be quickly forgotten because you yourself blew it. You are the blame.

Ed - look around at the tiny bit of support you have right now especially after a planned raid. That's all that will ever be there because of your foolishness.

What gets me really pissed off is the fact that your moronic actions tarnish the credibility of legitimate patriots.

What little respect I had for you, Reno and the rest has been replaced with embarrassment. You are an embarrassment to the true patriot movement in this country. I'm sure the founding father would feel the same way.

10:04 PM  

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